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Posted:  9/25/2012 8:44 PM #34248
awake12


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Subject: SHTF Guns To Own
Hello fellow forum users, this is my first post. I've been prepping since 2009. I have the following firearms for the collapse:
 
  • 870 Remington 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun - used for Home Defense / Hunting Small Game like Rabbit.
  • .22/10 Ruger Long Gun - Used for Target Practice / Hunting Small Game like Squirrel / Silent Sniper Use
  • .270 Remington Bolt Action - Used for Hunting large game such as Deer
  • .40 Glock 22 Side Arm - Used for main side arm / Everyday Carry
  • AR-15 Olympic Arms - Used for Battle Rifle During SHTF - Urban Combat
Any thoughts of any additional type of firearms I could use during a SHTF scenario?
 
What do you use and why?


Posted:  9/26/2012 1:02 AM #34250
horselips


Joined: 5/2/2012
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Lose the goddam Glock. I hate those things. If you must have an autoloader, please buy one with a real safety that completely locks and disables the weapon. Glocks are accidental discharges just waiting to happen. But that's just me. Everybody's taste in firearms is different, and there are really no right answers, except that you be very well practiced with your choices and are knowledgeable about their capabilities, virtues and vices. And you have enough ammunition, spare parts and accessories to maximize their potential. Are you arming anyone besides yourself? A spouse, offspring, relative or friend? Do they have preferences due to their gender, size, age, proficiency? If so, you might need to duplicate some of the models you listed, or keep shopping. Looks good so far.


Posted:  9/26/2012 8:06 AM #34251
hot_lips_banana


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I can't count on two hands how many people I know who have and still own Glocks. Not a one has had an "accidental discharge."
ANY gun can have an "accidental discharge"- it's the user.... NOT the gun.
 
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Posted:  9/26/2012 2:24 PM #34270
awake12


Joined: 9/25/2012
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You opinion, I <3 my glocks. My wife has glock 27, so we share the same ammo. I'm also thinking about getting a compact Springfield XD .40 cal, but NO I will not give up my Glock.BTW my wife trains with her firearm, along with a few other additional hands I use. I practice with all of my SHTF collection and the additional weapons I have in my collection.
 
My main question for everyone is are there any other type (not brand) you would suggest in a SHTF scenario and what you would use it for.


Posted:  9/26/2012 9:06 PM #34275
78corvette


Joined: 2/26/2009
Posts: 53
Last Post: 2/19/2013
Glocks are fine weapons I have seen plenty of firearms with safetys be ND usually by weirdo "highspeed" POGs.... anyway. Something I am investing in is a M1A that way I can do what an ar and a 270 can do in one system.... Just a thought. I think your question is what to ADD to your collectionthough and I honestly think that its pretty well rounded. I would probably just invest in some good optics and a few other goodies for them if they are pretty plain...


Posted:  9/29/2012 5:07 PM #34312
timekeep69


Joined: 9/29/2012
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I'll take my AK-47 over my AR-15 any day. I've had my AK for nearly 10 years and have never had a misfire. I can't say the same for my AR.

Posted:  9/29/2012 5:22 PM #34313
shawmutt


Joined: 9/29/2012
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Last Post: 10/28/2012
.22 Ruger Mark III or Browning Buckmark.  Well known for accuracy, easy to pack and conceal.
 
Long term, any black powder pistol.  Black powder and ammo can be easily made. 


Posted:  9/29/2012 5:35 PM #34314
EJC


Joined: 9/29/2012
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Last Post: 9/29/2012
My choices for my SHTF guns:
 
Remington 870 12 Gauge. I have both a 26" and 18.5" barrels.
Glock 17. My wife has a Glock 19. 
Remington 597 .22.  I bought this when I first started prepping. It works pretty good. It's not a 10/22, but it does the job.
Bushmaster AR-15. I also have a Kel-tec SU-16CA. The wife likes the Kel-tec better. I prefer the Bushmaster. 
Ruger Mark III 22/45. It is currently my bullseye pistol, but would work nicely as a .22 sidearm.
 
If I had to pick only one, I think I would take the Ruger Mark III. The reason is that I can take one box of .22 LR with me and have 525 shots whereas anything else would take up more space and weigh more. 
It won't have the stopping power the others would have, but it wouldn't necessarily be about stopping power. It would be about survival. Plus, I can consistently hit the center on a target @ 50 yards with no problems.
With a a little luck, I would be able to pick up something bigger on the way to a safer place. 
Of course, I hope to not have to only take one. 


Posted:  9/29/2012 5:49 PM #34316
Old Law Dog


Joined: 12/13/2011
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Last Post: 6/1/2014
I worked at a very large LEO firing range for a number of years. We ran close to a thousand officers [including those from our agency and others from around the state] through training & requalification each year. I saw several million rounds fired. Out of all the various firearms [wheel guns & semi autos of various makes & models] the only times the armorers ever worked on the Glocks was to change the stock sights out for night sights.   The other weapons had trigger, feed, wheel alignment & ejection problems. I own a Glock 21, 23 & 19. I've never had a misfire or failure to eject.
 
My SHTF stash includes:
1.  .22 LR rifle w/ 25 rd magazines-- for small game and low level rioting / looting control
2.  5.56 AR--- for major home defense / rioting & looting.
3.  12 ga pump w/ 28" goose barrel & a 18" riot barrel.--- hunting / food & home defense.
4.  9mm, .40 & .45 Glocks--- personal defense & every day carry. Just like a revolver, if you don't want it to go off by accident then keep your D*** finger off the trigger
 
5.  Simple pump-up Daisy or Crossman BB / Pellet rifle w/ a good scope and lots of BB's & pellets. You can use it for varmint control if your trash & sewer service goes down. And you can always shoot doves & squirrels in your back yard for meat if you have too. For any thing larger in a urban setting I have hundreds of the CCI 22 CB shorts that  I can fire from a good little bolt action rifle. They are super quiet and only 720 FPS.
 
6. Have a good compound bow and a number of arrows.  For food and other issues.
 
Reminder, Oklahoma goes OPEN CARRY with a permit on November 1st!!!!!!!!   And home owners / rentors will be able to carry rifles / shotguns & handguns unconcealed and without a license on their property.


Posted:  9/29/2012 5:59 PM #34317
tx_oil


Joined: 3/15/2012
Posts: 3
Last Post: 9/29/2012
1. Savage 24   .22 mag over .410 shotgun. Great all around combo.
2. FAL carbine.  .308 power, can reach out and touch someone, short handy carbine, damn near indestructable. 93 countries used it as a main battle rifle.
3. .357 revolver. Versatile, uses .38 special and .357 mag ammo.
OR
4. 9mm autoloader.  Plenty to choose, I like the beretta 92FS, HK P7, or the Star 30M. Ammo is available everywhere.


Posted:  9/29/2012 6:41 PM #34318
Jerry Smith


Joined: 2/2/2012
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I would have my M1A converted to an M21, a 870 Shotgun with the coyote killer chock and my SIG P220 on my hip.
 
 
Jerry


Posted:  9/29/2012 6:51 PM #34319
ancona77


Joined: 6/14/2012
Posts: 250
Last Post: 9/18/2013
My spikes tactical and my XDM .40. My girlfriend carries her walther Pk380 and her sons got a .270. Till we get more atleast.
HAPPINESS IS A WELL FED BELT FED!

Posted:  9/29/2012 8:10 PM #34326
SquirrelCDR


Joined: 9/29/2012
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My new SHTF gun is my Kriss SDP, I love this thing!!

Posted:  9/29/2012 10:04 PM #34328
mobilesniper


Joined: 9/16/2012
Posts: 6
Last Post: 10/1/2012
one thought that you might own....not a firearm, yet VERY deadly and useful for multiple purposes, is a crossbow.  i have found them to be great for hunting in situations where deadly silence is absolutely necessary.  they will drop anything from elk, to small rabbits.  also they are great or when ammo supplies are low, enemy may be nearby and you may have to take them out.  max range on a crossbow is about 50-60 yards, but is great for also keeping pests away when all sanitation has ceased to exist and you don't want to expend your ammunition.  plus you can in MOST instances re-use your bolts for your crossbow (alternatively a bow is another route you could go, but a little harder to master).  ak-47 or .308 ammo will both be prevalent in that kind of situation so you could add one of those.  for a .308 if you don't want to expend 1500 for an m1a you could get ruger's scout rifle a lot cheaper or even a cetme. but i do have to agree with other what you have so far is very well rounded and other than possibly a crossbow, it would be personal preference. also non firearm related, you need to have a very equipped first aid kit on hand if you don't already.  


Posted:  9/29/2012 10:08 PM #34329
mobilesniper


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trigger safety is user dependant.  i'll be honest i'm primarily a 1911 man myself, but because of my spinal compression from combat injuries; i DO carry a glock 36 .45acp most of the time as it's much lighter than my 1911.  never had an accidental discharge, but i treat every gun as if it's loaded and i've never had any firing issues.  you are right when you say it's peronal preference. 

Posted:  9/30/2012 12:13 AM #34332
revjedinark


Joined: 9/25/2012
Posts: 1
Last Post: 9/30/2012
My arms:
   Mossberg 500 Bantam pump in 20 gauge
   Remington Viper .22LR
   Marlin lever action in .44 mag
   Bolt action Savage in 7mm08
   Mosin Nagant 91/38 bolt action
   SVT-40 semi-auto
   Taurus Judge and Bond Defender in .45Colt/.410
   K98 Mauser 8mm
   Swedish Mauser in 7mm
   Bulgarian 9mm Makarov
   7.62 x 25 Tokarev
   9mm Benelli
   .177 cal Ruger Air Magnum
   Assorted black powder arms
   AK47
   AK74
 
   I wouldn't own a Glock, I prefer a hammer, SADA, and a safety decocker.
   The AKs because they're accurate enough and hands down more rugged and reliable than an AR
   The sidearms I chose because they're all fixed barrel designs, accurate and dependable.


Posted:  9/30/2012 7:16 AM #34333
Bville-Bud


Joined: 7/15/2012
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Not bad choices at all, here are my thoughts: 870 Remington 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun - used for Home Defense / Hunting Small Game like Rabbit. I love the 870 It would be OM my list too .22/10 Ruger Long Gun - Used for Target Practice / Hunting Small Game like Squirrel / Silent Sniper Use I'm with you here .270 Remington Bolt Action - Used for Hunting large game such as Deer I'm a 30-06 guy, the 270 is great .40 Glock 22 Side Arm - Used for main side arm / Everyday Carry I have a G22 but am more comfortable and better trained on my 1911, AR-15 Olympic Arms - Used for Battle Rifle During SHTF - Urban Combat I have a couple of ARs and really like them, also a couple of AKs. I have never had an AK failure. Never, not once. I cant say the same for the ARs, so if my life were on the line AK every day.

Posted:  9/30/2012 10:07 AM #34340
Saber101


Joined: 9/29/2012
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Last Post: 10/2/2012
Ok... I'll be that guy. I have two people I am accountable for (my wife and myself). I have two ARs and two AKs. Here is something to remember: Is the AK a more reliable weapon than the AR? Yes, any day of the week. HOWEVER, keep in mind that when SHTF, you can only carry so many round on your person, and if you are moving during the situation then having 10,000 rounds (purchased through cheaperthandirt.com of course!) isn't going to do you any good b/c I have yet to meet the grunt that pack 10,000 rounds, food, water, clothes, etc. There will be AR ammo everywhere. Not going to spell it out, there just will be, AK ammo... not so likely. That is something you should keep in mind when building your SHTF list.

Posted:  9/30/2012 3:13 PM #34345
horselips


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I keep reading this nonsense about folks getting ready to move around out there or bug out to Gawd knows where. If the SHTF you're staying put. Very very put. "Out there" will be fires raging and no fire department, assorted gang-bangers and thugs robbing everyone and everything they can. Crowds of desperate people lying in wait en masse to hijack or commandeer anything that may still have gas in it. The street lights will be out. Phones won't work. Your communications with your destination are cut. For all you know it could be even worse where you thought you were going. No way to know. Any radio or TV still on the air will ask you to "keep calm and carry on." The military will appear, set up roadblocks you'll never make it through and try to re-establish order, but may itself soon dissolve into the corrosive soup of a collapsing society. Dead bodies, and the living bodies of the wounded, the sick, the crippled will be scattered about - all decaying and breeding a wide assortment of yummy little plagues.
 
As the huddled masses of the great unwashed flee the cities, the rural countryside and foothills - exactly where many of the bug-outers planned to go - will be equally overrun and ruined. Every evil you fled from will be reenacted in your new location. Where they won't be anymore is in the city - where you and your fellow preppers holed up in the first place. Fortress Tract House Development has survived. Hey, you didn't do all the prepping for nothing, eh?  They're all gone, and the whole place is yours. You and your friends burn the bodies, sift through what was left behind or overlooked, and fort up with an endless supply of raw materials and even finished buildings to choose from. It's Omega Man (1971) all over again - only you're not alone, and without Mathias and his band of mutants. Or, if you bugged out, it might be No Blade of Grass (1970) all over again.
 
I love dreaming this crap up.


Posted:  9/30/2012 7:34 PM #34352
Saber101


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Alright, not to start trouble, but not ALL of us have the option to stay put. I don't plan on heading from coast to coast in an effort escape anything. I only have to make it 247 miles to the family farm, our "fortress". Not hard to cover on foot, stay off the roads, and get out before the masses abandon the city. Like I said, I'm just saying that that is what will be out there. The average person that lives in Virginia and wants to head for Colorado is SOL, but a short jog across a state to a secure are, INHO that is quite reasonable.

Posted:  10/1/2012 12:32 AM #34354
That one guy


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Mossberg 590 12 Gauge- for home defense / small game
Ruger 10/22 .22LR- for small game / training / last resort rifle
Ruger American Rifle 30-06- large game hunting / sniper
Springfield XD 9mm- main side arm
AK-47 7.62x39- main battle rifle
Mosin Nagat 91/30 7.62x54R- makes most moving things stop


Posted:  10/1/2012 9:29 AM #34358
skssporter/m/d_aficionado


Joined: 9/29/2012
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Right now all I have is a SKS Sporter with Tapco stock, Choate scope mount, R/G four reticle reflex sight, four 30 round steel mags, 75 round steel drum and two cases of ammo, and an 8 shot 20" 12 gauge Mossberg 500 with side folding stock and 200 rounds of 9 ball 00 buck.
 
Plan is to add a Smith & Wesson M&P .40 with a few thousand rounds of ammo, a Ruger 10/22 with box mags and a few 500+ round boxes of ammo, and either an AR-10, Springfield M1A, FN FAL or something of the sort in .308/7.62 NATO with a lit reticle variable zoom scope (4-12 power x 40+ objective) and a few thousand rounds. Also more ammo for the SKS and Mossberg.


Posted:  10/1/2012 2:39 PM #34359
78corvette


Joined: 2/26/2009
Posts: 53
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I agree when you say you would take an ar-15 over an ak.  ARs will jam if you dont clean them and drag them through mud both of which I hope people have more brains to take care of a weapon that is taking care of them. Some of our "allies" that don't know any better or dont even know how to/ too lazy to take a part a weapon then yes the ak is perfect. I have used M4s in much more harsh places for weapons then the states are and I have never had an issue with them. Clean after use, get a barral cap for it and keep your dust cover closed and it wont fail you.
 
 Planning on getting a .308? I think that is a wicked smart investment. I vote for a m1a and I dont think you will regret it...ever.
 
Bugging in vs bugging out.. main advice dont put all your eggs in one basket. If you live near a city area be prepared for all the slime to move into your little town and cause problems though and if you bug out dont think its going to be a fun camping adventure.... either way its going to suck.


Posted:  10/1/2012 5:02 PM #34360
Texan Raven


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As I have said before, I will not bug OUT until I can no longer safely bug IN. Even without power, without utilities, there is something somewhat comforting about being home. However, just because I would prefer to stay home, there are situations where that would not be feasible. So whether it's dangerous to bug out, or, in some folks' opinion, stupid to bug out, if the choice is "stay and die or go and maybe survive," the choice is clear.

Posted:  10/2/2012 2:20 PM #34388
macvrlamm


Joined: 4/16/2012
Posts: 4
Last Post: 10/2/2012
OK
870 Rem 18" and 24"barrel sets long magazine min 1000 rds each field load/ #3shoot load large buck shoot rds
223/556 weapon AR or Bolt ( better to have both) weapon some thing that fires the military round 10000 rds or very large assortment
308/762 weapon semi auto or bolt weapon ( better to have both) some thing that fires the military round 10000 rds or very large assortment
9mm semi pistol no plastic weapons remember something that shoots military ammo 5000rds
45 cal semi pistol no plastic weapons remember again something that shoots military ammo 5000rds
22 cal rifle and pistol a large assortment of ammo min 5000rds 
just maybe a 22mag or center fire thats a just maybe
an asortment of wheel guns 38/357 -  44 - a large assortment of ammo min 500rds
and all the stuff it takes to reload these powder shoot you name it
do not work/live in any city of any kind or size, you will not be able to control the events around you and the criminals will own the town
 you and yours will be the first to go you and only you control your future
 


Posted:  10/5/2012 9:16 PM #34467
AvtomatiK


Joined: 10/5/2012
Posts: 1
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Sorry guys but looks like I have to be the one to say it since no one else has. Accidental discharges are negligent discharges. The firearm discharged because a finger was in the triggerguard when loaded and not shooting, thats not an accident thats negligence IMHO. Ignoring safety isnt an accident, its negligence!
 
SHTF battery... I'd suggest:
1. on-you-at-all-times centerfire handgun
2. scoped centerfire hunter/sniper rifle
3. intermediate centerfire rifle/carbine for runnin & gunnin at various ranges, preferably semi auto with large capacity
4. semi or pump shotgun(preferably 12 gauge).

Keep in mind that your handgun and/or intermediate rifle picks can double as a .22 rimfire if you choose a platform that has .22 conversion kits available, so theres no need for a dedicated .22, if for whatever reasons you need to leave some weight/guns behind(sic!).
 
All you need to do is insert your favorite guns into the list.
Of course it goes without saying(even though Im saying it) you need to be proficient with each arm if you expect them to save your life, not just one time but many times over. Dont forget to think about the interchanging of trigger/action styles. Going from your #1 DAO pistol to your #2 or #3 1-2stage triggered rifle might screw with you just when you dont need to be screwed with.
 
My personal picks(favorites) are:
 1. ANY good quality 1911 and/or Kahr K,T,P,CW (I dont have much experience shooting Glocks, but they just dont feel right in my hands)
 2. Scoped M1A - .308win
 3. AK47 - 7.62x39mm + red dot
 4. Saiga 12 - 12ga

All are loaded via detachable magazine and can accept large capacity magazines, whether needed or not. And all are accurate enough to get the job done and make me feel safe. I own all and others except the M1A which is on my wish list, my granddads 30-06 takes its place for now.
Notice I picked two single stack semiauto pistols, THATS NOT ADVICE, thats my own preference for grip size, trigger feel and portability. I have funny hands and they dont like the feel of most handguns. Actually im IN LOVE with Kahrs nowadays I cant help it, I just like them side to side, front to back, top to bottom.
 
78corvette said "Bugging in vs bugging out... either way its going to suck." Those are words we should not forget. Cheers.


Posted:  10/5/2012 10:04 PM #34468
horselips


Joined: 5/2/2012
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Every American, prepper or not, needs a Battle Rifle (.308), an Assault Rifle (.223 or 7.62x39), a Tactical Sniper Rifle (MOA accurate at >300 yrds), a 12 or 20 Ga. Shotgun, a .22 rifle and handgun, a Service Sidearm (9mm or better), and a Concealable Handgun, along with optics, accessories, spare parts, and plenty of ammunition for each.

Posted:  10/6/2012 9:54 PM #34480
Mikial


Joined: 10/6/2012
Posts: 4
Last Post: 10/6/2012
To get away from the Glock subject ;-) my recommendation is that you have some back-up weapons in the same caliber as the primary. In other words, if you have a .45 then have a second for a backup.  I tend to go for common military calibers that are easy to get ammo for such as 5.56, .45 and NATO 7.62/.308.
 
I would also suggest an easily carried rifle that breaks down for adding to a backpack 72 hour kit. Kel Tec has a couple that are worth looking at. Some use a pistol caliber and can be purchased to use the same mags as a handgun to simplify ammo and mag selection,. These are not true rifles and are backup weapons in case you have to bug out with only what you can carry on your back and need something compact and easy to deal with. I have a Kel Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm that uses the same mags as my Beretta 92. They are also available in .40 with a match up to the Glock 22.
 
BTW, I love my Glock 21 in .45. 


Posted:  10/6/2012 10:15 PM #34481
Mikial


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I agree with staying put, if at all possible. Problem is, there may be a fire and you have to get out. There may be an unstoppable force of some kind heading your way, such as a dam being blown or collapsing or a levee being over-topped, maybe a massive mob of bad guys coming through from somewhere that you know there is no way you can hold off, who can say. Bottom line is, you may have no choice but to bail out so be ready for it.
 
Hope for the best . .  prepare for the worst.
 
Solid packs with good quality survival/backpacking gear, boots, easily carried weapons and ammo you can carry plenty off, first aid kits, you know the drill. If someone in your group can't carry their share then get a deer cart to carry extra gear and that can be used on rough terrain. By all means, don;t leave the castle if you don't have to. But you may not have a choice.


Posted:  10/7/2012 1:52 AM #34482
horselips


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I'm on board with Mikial on back-up firearms. In my safe, in .308, my CETME is backed up by an FR8 Mauser, in 7.62x39 the Ak-47 is paired with the SKS, in .45ACP the 1911 goes with the Webley Mk.VI, the Charter Bulldog and S&W Model 29 both take .44SPCL., in 9mm the Walther P1 goes with the Luger, etc etc. Might I be better off with actual duplicates in each caliber? Of course. But variety is still the spice of life, so while none of my 'pairs' shares parts, I'll settle for them sharing cartridges. Firearms in 5.56x45, .22LR, .45Colt, .22Magnum, .357Mag/.38Spcl. are also on hand should any ammo in these popular calibers become available through barter or whatever. Gawd I luv guns. What a delightful addiction.
 
As for having to bug out - aside from a temporary evacuation to a 3 star hotel to wait out a passing natural disaster, I'm staying put, PERIOD. If I "have to" bug out 'cause of some SHTF action, it's automatically worse out there than it is curled up at home. Especially encumbered by a bug-out bag which might as well have "steal this bag" printed on it in 3 inch day-glo letters as I plod slowly under its weight. The "mob of bad guys" I'm walking from will certainly run after me and catch up.


Posted:  10/7/2012 8:07 AM #34484
ancona77


Joined: 6/14/2012
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Just got my new ruger 10/22! I'm excited to go test fire it.
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Posted:  10/15/2012 11:13 AM #34602
awake12


Joined: 9/25/2012
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Last Post: 1/4/2013
Lots of good discussion here. My future plans to expand my collection are to add a .308 Rifle w/Scope, 7.62x.39 assault rifle, Mossberg 500 12 Gauge shotgun, .357 Revolver, and ..45 Glock 21.

Posted:  10/28/2012 11:48 AM #34836
guy fawkes


Joined: 10/28/2012
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Last Post: 11/3/2012
commonality of caliber and operating systems are most important. don't carry two different handguns with different ammo.
too much wasted weight. i use glock 22/27. mags, caliber and operation are identical.
for carbine, if shtf is imminent, i use the ak because i got a case of ammo when it was cheap. if i have time, i want to trade the sks and clips for 5.56 ammo for the ar-15. if i didn't already have the ar and ak (neither of which have ever malfunctioned), i would look at a keltec 2k in 40 glock for less "diversity (complexity)" in platforms.
for longer range i have my dad's 30 .06 m1 but i dont have a lot of ammo or clips for it. i would prefer a 700 bdl (cost) in 7mm mag simply because of the flatter trajectory and scope availability.
i don't see a purpose for a shotgun other than bird hunting. the .40sw will do anything the shotgun does at close range and the ak/ar platform is more versatile at a longer range with less weight, recoil and
higher capacity and quicker reload. 
other than cost and weight i don't see the point of the .22lr, the 5.56 will do the same thing.
if you have a reliable side arm and back up handgun and a reliable carbine, all you need is ammo and mags (odds are you will not be doing any sniping), not 10 firearms in 8 different configurations using 7 different calibers of ammo.
and a couple of sturdy knives. a kabar kukri, a cold steel tanto (bead blasted 3/16 " thick) and a gerber folder, and the repair tools and high wear parts for the weapons.  
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Posted:  11/12/2012 4:54 AM #35096
engineer3126


Joined: 11/12/2012
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Last Post: 11/12/2012

 Currently these are the firearms that I own. Long Guns
Marlin X7S 0.308 Bolt Action Rifle (Leapers utg bipod,Barska 8-32x50 AO Varmint Riflescope, )
Marlin 795 .22 Semi Auto Rifle
Mosin Nagant 7.62 x 54R Bolt Action Rifle 
FA Cugir M10, M&M Arms AKM Semi Auto Rifle ( Side mounted rails, Leapers UTG 5th Gen 4" ITA Red/Green Dot Sight with QD Mounts, Leapers tac-light)
 mossberg 500 12g
Handguns 
Smith and Wesson SW9VE 9mm Semi Auto Handgun
Tanfoglio TZ75 9mm Semi Auto handgun
 
The Firearms that I intend to own in the future
9mm Carbine - Hi-Point or Keltec Sub2000
Saiga IZ 132 7.62 x 39
FAL- .308
PSL - 7.62 x 54
parts kit for AK
 
I hope to have multiple firearms chambered in common calibers.  
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted:  12/2/2012 9:18 PM #35410
SEAN


Joined: 12/2/2012
Posts: 1
Last Post: 12/2/2012
Keeping in mind that a gun is a tool and there is a right tool for every job so here is my list. AK 74/ ruger AR 5.45x39 and 5.56 SKS 7.62x39 12 GA mossberg 500, remington 870, stoger coach gun Marlin 60, 10/22 Glock 19, Taurus 247, XDM9 , CZ 75B XD 45, 1911 CZ kadet 22 conversion kit Mosin nagant sporterized with scope and turned down bolt I picked thesis for a number of reasons 1. Availability of ammunition. 2 price of ammunition, 3cost and reliability 4 availability of after market parts and accessories.

Posted:  12/13/2012 4:20 PM #35574
mtnboomer


Joined: 2/9/2006
Posts: 336
Last Post: 8/18/2014
Okay, folks, listen up! I'm only gonna say this once!
 
The only guns you need when the world goes to s**t are:
 
.22 rimfire rifle - The most perfect survival arm ever invented! Anyone, any size can use it sucessfully. Ammo is plentiful, cheap and easy to carry. Perfect for small game.
 
.30-30 rifle - The most popular rifle caliber in the world! Ammo is literally everywhere. Powerful enough to take anything smaller than a Grizzly.
 
12-ga. shotgun - The most versatile firearm. With shot it will take small game, birds and predators - both two- and four-legged! With slugs it will take anything in North America, including bears!
 
.357 Magnum revolver - For close-in and personal protection. Has the versatility to use ammo from .38 Short Colt to .357 Magnum, a real plus when you have to scrounge for shells! Mild enough with .38 Special target loads that kids and small adults can handle it, but powerful enough with full-house Mangum loads to take deer-sizs game.
 
Other than a good, sharp knife, that's all you need, right there! 'Nuff said!
 
 
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Posted:  12/13/2012 6:27 PM #35576
Texan Raven


Joined: 5/22/2007
Posts: 411
Last Post: 1/9/2013
To each his own.... Why carry a .22 rimfire rifle when a Ruger Mark III 22/45 takes up less room? While I like lever guns, I don't want to depend on one to hold off several two-footed predators. I'll stick with an AK, but thanks for the advice. As to the .357, I think 9mm would be as easily "scroungeable." (Is that even a word???)

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