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Posted:  3/27/2006 2:02 PM #6428
mpr933


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Subject: VZ24 Mauser
I am not that familier with rifles and just bought a VZ24. I thought all VZ24's were 8mm, but this one shoots 7x57. My question is can it shoot 8mm also? I have been going round and round trying to find someone to help me with this question. I thought the rifle may of been 7.92x57 and just referred to as 8mm. But that does not seem to be correct. I do not really know if this question makes sense. Can a 7x57 rifle also shoot 8x57? Thanks.

Posted:  3/27/2006 3:02 PM #6429
Boogyman


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NO!!!!! DO NOT TRY IT!!!

If you try to chamber a 8mm round into a 7mm barrel it could very well blow up in your face!

You'd better take this gun to someone who knows (like a gunsmith) and have them inspect it carefully before you attempt to fire ANY ammo through it.

It could have been modified or re-barreled or something weird so be careful!

Can you post any pics of this gun?


Posted:  3/27/2006 3:10 PM #6430
STELLA


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7.92x57 is actually 8mm. now 7x57 is actually 7mm. check on the barrel towards the muzzle end for the importers name etched into the barrel. it should also state the caliber of said firearm. vz24 was/is chambered for 7.92x57 a.k.a 8mm. as boogyman said if your still not sure take it to a gunsmith and have them check it out.

Posted:  3/27/2006 3:33 PM #6431
mpr933


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Thanks, I had no intention of test firing it with 8mm.

I questioned the mm size because I never heard of a 7mm VZ24. The gun shop told me it was 7mm and I have been shooting with 7mm. It just seemed odd to me.

Here is a picture:


Also, I just learned from another forum that there were some 7mm VZ24's made, but not many:
http://pub176.ezboard.com/fcurioandrelicfirearmsforumfrm2.showMessage?topicID=236.topic

Posted:  3/27/2006 6:36 PM #6418
Boogyman


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Ok, I'm glad that's settled! (whew)!

That's a nice Mauser, you wouldn't want to sell it, would you?


Posted:  3/27/2006 7:16 PM #6419
mpr933


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Me too. Thanks for all your help.
Sorry, not for sale. But my local gun shop sure has a lot of them. Not sure if they were all 7mm or 8mm though.

Posted:  3/28/2006 7:05 AM #6424
mpr933


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STELLA-7.92x57 is actually 8mm. now 7x57 is actually 7mm. check on the barrel towards the muzzle end for the importers name etched into the barrel. it should also state the caliber of said firearm. vz24 was/is chambered for 7.92x57 a.k.a 8mm. as boogyman said if your still not sure take it to a gunsmith and have them check it out.

I am not sure how I missed it, but I did find the 7mm on the bottom of the barrel:


Thanks.

Posted:  3/28/2006 8:14 AM #6425
Boogyman


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MPR933... You said your dealer has more of these... in 7x57? What city/state is your dealer located in and how much is he asking for these rifles? Do you have a phone # I can call him? You can PM me with it if you don't mind...

Thanks, Boogy


Posted:  3/28/2006 9:46 AM #6426
Boogyman


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Got your PM...

Thanks

Boog


Posted:  11/20/2006 9:29 PM #6346
mikehmsn


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My VZ24 was rebarrelled in 30-06. Absolutely love the gun. Took two deer last weekend with it- 9 point buck and medium doe. Now thats a freezer filling rifle.
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Posted:  11/20/2006 10:11 PM #6347
FlecktarnFreak


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can ya PM me that stuff ya PMed Boogy? I been lookin for a good rifle in7x57

Posted:  11/24/2006 9:38 AM #6378
robert


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VZ24s were produced for thr following nations in the following calibres.
Brazil.................7x57mm (7mm Mauser)

Columbia............7x57mm

Venezuala...........7x57mm

Guatamala..........7x57mm

Bolivia................7.65x53mm

Peru...................7.65x53mm

Yugoslavia, Romania, Lithuania and China adaoted it in 7.9x57mmS. (aka 7.92x57 and 8mm Mauser)
Many Latin American guns were later converted to 30-06 or even 7.62x51mm NATO.
All info came from Brownell's "Mauser Bolt Action Rifles"
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Posted:  2/27/2007 1:30 PM #6544
deaddog


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FWIW...there's no way you could have put the 8X57 round in the 7X57 chamber so the danger was never there!

Had you put a 7X57 round in a 8X57 chamber there would have been a bang and a very innaccurate bullet wobble out the barrel and park itself on a hillside a couple miles away.

Use a dial caliper on the barrel ID to see of the grpoove diameter is close to .284 or .323.....it's all that was needed!

Posted:  2/27/2007 2:15 PM #6547
mpr933


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deaddog-FWIW...there's no way you could have put the 8X57 round in the 7X57 chamber so the danger was never there!

Had you put a 7X57 round in a 8X57 chamber there would have been a bang and a very innaccurate bullet wobble out the barrel and park itself on a hillside a couple miles away.

Use a dial caliper on the barrel ID to see of the grpoove diameter is close to .284 or .323.....it's all that was needed!

Thanks.

Posted:  2/27/2007 4:00 PM #6542
deaddog


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sometimes those VZ-24 rifles wind up as sporters.....



If folks want other photos I'll post more.

Posted:  2/27/2007 10:32 PM #6541
mpr933


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deaddog-sometimes those VZ-24 rifles wind up as sporters.....



If folks want other photos I'll post more.

Sure, lets see them.

Posted:  3/2/2007 10:05 AM #6536
deaddog


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sorry it took so long to get the photos but here they are:








Posted:  4/16/2007 3:18 PM #6474
exfarmer


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Subject: VZ24 in 7x57
Love to find a VZ24 in 7x57 with a czech lion crest and czech BRNO markings on the side. Especially one that I could afford. I would like to know where that guy that found one thinking it was an 8x57.

Posted:  11/13/2007 7:09 PM #6697
mauserman98


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new here. I have a vz24 w/ all matching numbers. Anyone know what it's worth. Newbee

Posted:  5/23/2011 9:00 AM #27118
cappaletti


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I got my vz24 from SOG (Southern Ohio Gun) hand select for $170.00 w/o s/h. It was in sad shape! Surface rust (light), stock in TERRIBLE shape (steel butt plate looked like someone tried to use it for a hammer). The action was nice n tight! Trying to find a new stock/bayonet&scabbard for it now. These rifles in 7mm were made for use in Brazil from what I can tell and the boys from Brazil DEFINITELY used them!

Posted:  9/22/2011 7:24 AM #28187
ToddB


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My dad gave me my grandfathers Czech Brno VZ24 that he brought back from WW2.  I cleaned it all up and it is in beautiful shape.  I thought all vz24's were chambered in 7.92x57 but I recently got some vintage ammo just to check the fit  and the bullet won't chamber,  this has never been modified (all numbers match-all)  unless it was done during the war.   What else could this be chambered in?


Posted:  9/22/2011 7:37 AM #28188
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Posted by:ToddB
"
My dad gave me my grandfathers Czech Brno VZ24 that he brought back from WW2.  I cleaned it all up and it is in beautiful shape.  I thought all vz24's were chambered in 7.92x57 but I recently got some vintage ammo just to check the fit  and the bullet won't chamber,  this has never been modified (all numbers match-all)  unless it was done during the war.   What else could this be chambered in?
"
It appears that the vz. 24 rifle was also chambered in 7x57 Mauser and 7.65x53mm Argentine. Of those two, I would bet it is a 7x57, the Argentines are probably pretty rare. The Israelies also rebarreled some to 7.62 NATO. The safest bet is to have a gunsmith make a cast of the chamber so it can be measured.
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Posted:  9/23/2011 7:21 AM #28208
ToddB


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I'm taking down to the Smith over the weekend-  let him check it out and fire it.  Unfortunately as in most items handed down after a death I can't ask grandpa about where or when  it came from,  so I got to investigate.


Posted:  9/26/2011 4:56 PM #28269
skewed


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actually, so much gas will blow past the under diameter bullet,  7mm in 8mm bore, and the bullet will probably tumble end over end, it won't fly 1/4 mile, much less 2 miles.


Posted:  9/28/2011 8:03 AM #28297
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Posted by:skewed
"actually, so much gas will blow past the under diameter bullet,  7mm in 8mm bore, and the bullet will probably tumble end over end, it won't fly 1/4 mile, much less 2 miles. "
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Posted:  10/5/2011 9:48 AM #28477
ToddB


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I got it back from the smith and he said he wasn't equipped to cast the chamber (some gunsmith).  As far as what gundog said about being from argentina,  I don't think so-  my grandfather brought it back from ww2, and it is stamped Ccechoslavzakia  BRNO--I don't think they imported them into germany for ww2 from argentina (not absolutley sure).  I'm gonna try to find a casting kit and do it myself.


Posted:  10/13/2011 12:54 PM #28566
ToddB


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I just mic'd the barrel and at the largest point it was 8.12mm---that being said i have some ww2 ammo that measures 8.3mm.  Could the ammo have expanded over 70 years of mishandling that much?


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