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Posted:  11/28/2005 12:19 AM #4556
pyrostorm


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Subject: What exactly does DEMILLED mean?
I am new to the gun community and have been looking at many different types of guns and ammo. A variety of guns and ammo say "demilled", does this mean that the gun or ammo is unable to be fired? I have been looking at 50 cal rifles and such (just because they interest me, not like I can afford one at the moment)

Posted:  11/28/2005 1:03 AM #4557
Weps


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Subject: Re: What exactly does DEMILLED mean?
pyrostorm-I am new to the gun community and have been looking at many different types of guns and ammo. A variety of guns and ammo say "demilled", does this mean that the gun or ammo is unable to be fired? I have been looking at 50 cal rifles and such (just because they interest me, not like I can afford one at the moment)

In the civilian world demilled means Inert. Will not and can not be made to fire or be fired.

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Posted:  11/28/2005 1:11 AM #4558
pyrostorm


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Thanks for the info Weps :D

Posted:  11/28/2005 3:14 AM #4550
Weps


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Subject: What exactly does DEMILLED mean?
no problem

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Posted:  11/28/2005 7:33 AM #4551
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On the 50 cal ammo that CTD sells, demilled means that the military powder has been replaced with commercial powder.
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Posted:  11/29/2005 4:27 AM #4555
AR_and_Glock


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Subject: Re: What exactly does DEMILLED mean?
Weps-pyrostorm-I am new to the gun community and have been looking at many different types of guns and ammo. A variety of guns and ammo say "demilled", does this mean that the gun or ammo is unable to be fired? I have been looking at 50 cal rifles and such (just because they interest me, not like I can afford one at the moment)

In the civilian world demilled means Inert. Will not and can not be made to fire or be fired.


This is wrong. The Clinton executive order states that no military surplus ammo can be sold to civilians in it's original form unless grandfathered. It must be "demilled" which means one part of the round must be replaced before being sold on the civy market. Most of the time, they pull the primer and replace it as they do with XM193/XM855 but any part can be replaced such as the propellant like RendonRedneck stated.

Posted:  11/29/2005 8:47 AM #4553
C0wboi


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Subject: Weps is correct
And so are you. "Demilled" when refering to ammo is what you are right about.

Weps is correct when refering to firearms. My father has several WW2 machine-guns, that have been "Demilled." They can not, and never will be, able to fire again. Demilled has multiple meanings, depending on usage. Just like many words in the English Language. :D
What part of "Shall not be infringed" do people not understand????

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Posted:  11/29/2005 9:00 AM #4554
Boogyman


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Root of the word ? Could have 2 meanings...
"De-milled", as in the opposite of "milled" or "machined", as in how they cut up receivers on full-auto weapons so as to make them inoperable. OR....
"De-milled", as in "demilitarized", as in changing a component in ammo as stated, so it is no longer "military" spec.
Either way works I guess....


Posted:  11/29/2005 3:14 PM #4552
AR_and_Glock


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Subject: Re: Weps is correct
C0wboi-And so are you. "Demilled" when refering to ammo is what you are right about.

Weps is correct when refering to firearms. My father has several WW2 machine-guns, that have been "Demilled." They can not, and never will be, able to fire again. Demilled has multiple meanings, depending on usage. Just like many words in the English Language. :D


A "demilled" fire arm could simply mean the firing pin was replaced with a non military issue pin. You're wrong too :) Boogyman is right, demilled has a lot of meanings.

Posted:  11/29/2005 4:02 PM #4549
C0wboi


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Subject: Yea, he was right.
It all depends on the original root. So we're all wrong, and right, at the same time? :D

Gotta love English.

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Through threw


ad nausem I used to wonder why people had problems learning English. I've since learned 3 others, and all 3 made a LOT more sense. Oh well.
What part of "Shall not be infringed" do people not understand????

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Posted:  11/30/2005 1:48 PM #4548
Weps


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My CO is always chewing on about "No common core experience". I guess this is one of those times that everyone has different experience's.

I live in the military world where demilled means inert (not able to fire or be made to fire). Like a demilled M256 120mm Main Gun.

I have no experience with civilian or private sector stuff. I and my father have M885 and M1909 ammo.

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Posted:  12/1/2005 1:02 AM #4547
pyrostorm


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Subject: What exactly does DEMILLED mean?
I would just like to thank everyone for posting all the useful information about "demilled". :D

Posted:  4/6/2008 3:14 AM #4674
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as far as firearms go most of the "demilled" guns i've seen have had the reciever tourch cut into 3 pieces. hope this helps.
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Posted:  6/2/2008 5:03 PM #4712
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Actually, "demilled" is in reference to "this item has undergone (some) defined de-militarization process" -- much like "decaf" is "this product has undergone (some) decaffeinating process". It's not necessarily inert (or caffeine-free), it's just gone through a process. :)

As mentioned above, ammo must be separated, receivers torched into three parts, etc. There are tons of military literature defining the specifics, depending upon the type of item.

A sad demil-story -- moons ago, the Army chopped up ("demilled") a bunch of M14 receivers and sold them off as scrap metal. An enterprising individual bought a batch of them, welded the pieces together (w/o select fire) and sold them as "re-weld M14s".

BATF didn't appreciate it much and collected them all. I would guess they accused the poor chap of manufacturing automatic weapons since they were marketed as "M14" and the law has weird wording about weapon model numbers (c.f. Springfield "M1A" instead of "M14").

Posted:  12/14/2011 2:39 AM #29330
BRM8250


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Subject: What exactly does DEMILLED mean?
Could it be possible that these weapons were also changed, so as to be that they are no longer able to be full-auto? I know that was a large point for most of the gun laws that came and went not so long ago. I am not sure, just wondering if this could be a possibility. I am new here, so just trying to get info as well. Thanks.

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